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Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:27 pm
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
J Bee:

I have tried the different anti-coagulant baits and all they do is store them for later use. I went through 4 trays of bait in my shop only later to discover their stash.

By they, you must mean mice? I’ve field mice in the garage, too; they get the snap-trap - and a last meal of peanut butter! In fact, Wilco has the best black plastic traps - with the high trigger bar, so you aren't messing around with those cheesy metal catches - that take a day off my life every time they trigger when setting :shock:

As mentioned, I’m no expert in the field - just a do it myselfer, but won’t Strychnine transfer to predators..? I’m not sure how, or how fast it acts, but I’m told the trouble is when they’re feeling poorly, wandering around in the open either going crazy or dehydrated and looking for water - they become easy targets for owls and cats... As described, I learned the hard way and my hype over this product, Quintox, is that it doesn’t transfer.

I'll try that bait listed on the website just to give them some variety. I've also installed one owl nesting box and am working on a second.

I feel better already :P

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Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:43 pm
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
The Strychnine bait is dyed blue to prevent misidentification with other animals so they don't feed on it. I also make sure I drop it down the hole because I have two dogs, one of which eats anything......

I have caught mice and shrews in my shop......in the traps.


Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:01 pm
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Location: Canby, OR Z8
Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
So I've been using this stuff for a couple months, dropping a few pellets down each hole every two weeks. The problem is I can't find any holes anymore. How can I use this vole bait if there aren't any holes left? It's useless now... oh wait... :D


Sat May 09, 2009 7:57 pm
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
Congratulations – that’s my problem too! I was a bit worried as my grass got so long before its first mowing - that I wasn’t able to see what was going on down there; but after a good close mow - nothing, not even holes!

Now I’m sure I’ve a scattered cluster of the little vermin dug in somewhere around here but I’ve got half a container of my original purchase awaiting them :mrgreen:

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Sat May 09, 2009 8:37 pm
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
I've got about 99% of a container left. I wonder what the shelf life of this stuff is.

I also wonder if it's useful against gophers?


Mon May 11, 2009 9:04 am
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
- most manufactures will claim their stuff's too old shortly after you’ve purchased it - likely after having told you it will keep forever before I don’t know. Mine’s in a cool, dark and dry environment, twist-tied in its original bag inside its plastic tub – I’ll keep it till it’s gone, if it takes ten years. - or sell/give it to my neighbors - to keep the varmints from migrating back!

I’ve no idea about gophers - I think their exit holes are mainly kick-outs for excess tunnel dirt. I doubt they’d return to feed - wait a minute, I bate my antique gopher blaster, usually with a piece of carrot, apple or potato; maybe that’s not necessary? I’ve heard they’ll simply return to seal an open-ended hole - thus triggering my device by accident.

Gophers seem skittish, I don’t know if digging down to a tunnel and loading it with pellets would tempt them to return and feed..? It also seems like they’d need about ten times as much, but you’ve got that! Go-pher it!

Tell us how you do :mrgreen:

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Mon May 11, 2009 5:13 pm
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
Gopher traps work pretty good if you handle them only with gloves on. They are so wary that I have to use a propane torch to get all the scent of any previously killed gophers off the traps.

And they adore the smell of freshly crushed Queen Anns Lace (wild carrot) set just beyond the far side of the trap!(closest to us, not closest to them) Other fleshy native roots that they eat are also useful for baiting. I always cover the my dig-out hole with a black tarp so there is no light to make them wary. They come out seized in the trap the size of half-grown cats. Huge.


Tue May 12, 2009 7:51 am
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
This response is in lieu of playing phone-tag with new HOS board member, Jodi G., who asked if the Quintox was working on my Meadow Voles and would I do it again? In short, Yes!

After wiping out the multitudes with a couple doses to every hole (around two acres worth), I did my latest follow-up in August of 2009. There were several active clans who had on average 5 holes, generally under fruit trees; either feeding directly on their roots or utilizing their shade I suspected. It took very little of my remaining (original) order of Quintox to clean them up.

After that single application - no more activity! And, no adverse effects on wild or domesticated creatures. I suspect I’d likely missed a few holes but assume the owls took them out, due to the fact all vole activity had ceased.

I feel the problems and damage from these Meadow Voles is one of the least understood or reported problems in the Willamette Valley of Oregon - at least for the Home Orchardist. Out of sight - out of mind is likely the reaction of most. I may have mentioned in this thread walking an orchard last year and listening to the owners describe how poorly their 8 to 10 year old fruit trees were doing. They were stunned as I pointed out the vole hole-riddled ground around their most sickly trees

Quintox works ...if they’d like to mail me a complementary tub for recommending it – I’ll take it! Otherwise, this testimony is strictly due to my prior losses and the near complete control of these pests. So, Jodi, go for it 8) And, thanks for stepping up to the HOS Board.

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Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:56 am
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
Quintox update: Quintox is no longer manufactured; it has been replaced by Terad3

I just spoke with Pro Pest Products (1-800-476-3368) she™ said Terad3 is a new product as of December, 2009 and that it meets the same standards as did Quintox “such as non-transferability to non-target pests. I believe she said it’s made by the same company.

Here is the Pro Pest / Do-It-Yourself Pest Control Inc. online product link: http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/s ... ria=terad3

Here is their description of Terad3: TERAD3 Ag Pellets is the first and only rodenticide in pellet form approved by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for organic production. With its unique active ingredient, Vitamin D3, TERAD3 Ag Pellets can be used by farmers operating under the guidelines of the USDA National Organic Program (NOP) to control rats and mice. No secondary poisoning for birds of prey.

Feel free to do your homework, but when/if I need more, it looks as if I’ll be ordering Terad3

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Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:17 pm
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
This is a great topic. Thanks for spreading the news, Viron. I didn't even notice the damage that they had done to my fruit trees until you guys wrote about it and I looked to see what had happened. Now I'm trying to be vigilant to keep the mulch away from the trunk and spreading the news to other gardeners.
Thanks
John S
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Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:10 am
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
Mike,

Sounds like you’re dealing with a garden; my experience is with yard and orchard - and a product called Quintox. I’ll treat near my vegetable garden, but not inside it; though I’ve little fear of ingesting any/or enough of this product to harm me or others.

But I’m not the expert, only stating my experience while admitting I’d (though the price has increased by nearly a third) do the same with this replacement product.

Here’s the distributor’s toll free # One, eight-hundred, four, seven, six, three, three, six, eight. If your questions are too legal or intense, I suspect you’ll be referred to the manufacturer. If your questions make them sweat, they’ll likely recommend you not use their product. Your call

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Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:14 pm
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
This is a great topic. Thanks for spreading the news, Viron.

John, you’re welcome - sure wish this forum had been up and running back in my formative years, though tagging along on countless orchard tours kinda did the same thing.

Unfortunately, mulch seems a vole’s playground. Insulated, and providing cover that’s likely what gave them a great start around my trees. Now I keep that area bare though water deep. Their main target seems the roots of fruit trees and vines all kinds! Either they’re constantly feeding on the roots or using the cover for shade and protection (or all the above).

I’ve also got multiple owl perches, and if they're found inside a garden, an eight-horse Troybilt or my favorite shovel can till em up or dig em out. What’s amazing is to find everyone I know in rural areas over-run by these vermin. Had one describe the farmer’s trick of deep-disking them but that doesn’t work so well in an orchard. Another, with a multitude of roaming cats, doesn’t know why their cats aren’t controlling them. From what I’ve read, they’re simply out of control!

As I’d described, an organic sister-in-law made the effort of looking this stuff up one rainy day while discussing our damage. We were excited to learn it wasn’t transferable to other creatures; her, cats; me, owls. As Home Orchardist’s it’s done the trick! - now should I buy up a pallet before it’s banned :lol:

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Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:46 pm
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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
I had a great time leading a pruning demonstration for the Yamhill County Master Gardeners today, south of Lafayette, Oregon. As we walked from one orchard to another folks began recognizing the grass-chewed openings of meadow voles - which lead to the discussion here.

As someone squeezed the name Quintox out of me -- I quickly informed those following the conversation that it’s now something else, if basically the same thing, though I couldn’t remember the name. I also suggested they find this thread and that I’d bring it to the top.

As several of us walked and talked I was reminded of the poster, mike (above), and let them know this poison was not to be scattered around the orchard but placed down the vole holes - A collective ‘Dah’ seemed the response. The apparent conflicting labeling is likely attributed to, 1) this product appears to be sold in bate packs that are scattered inside or near warehouses. 2) Vole control is apparently a separate application in which they are either unaware of or don’t consider profitable enough to market for.

Otherwise Terad3 is the stuff you Master Gardeners. And, as assumed, placed down the obvious vole tunnels it would be next to impossible for any other creature to consume - the good part being - once it’s inside the vole it is not transferred to predators. Enjoy :mrgreen:

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Post Re: Meadow Vole Damage
Deja vu -- Upon concluding this year’s pruning demonstration for the Yamhill County Master Gardeners near Grand Island yesterday (a different location from last year), I again noticed and noted Meadow Vole tunnels near our practice orchard - After suggesting any of the 20 participants not associated with the Home Orchard Society at least check out this forum - I also said I’d bring a couple of forum topics to the top so here’s the first.

- This is the second of two pages on this topic, having evolved from its first posting in February of 2009 do note - the product name has changed. Otherwise, it’s apparently been working. And, any of our members with current information to add please do 8)

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