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Location: Mulino, OR (Clackamas County)
Post cider apple bloom times, scab resistance, fruiting habit
Howdy.

First - My goal is to find 4 spur-bearing cider varieties with similar bloom times that are as scab resistant as possible. I'm looking at some of the HOS pubs re: disease resistance, bloom time & fruiting habit. Some of the cider varieties I'm looking at are not inclouded in all three pubs. Can anyone help fill in the blanks? Format of each line that follows is 'variety, bloom time, scab resistance, fruiting habit'. Question marks (????) denote the data I'm looking for.

- Golden Russet, A(early), ?????, spur
- Dabinett, C(late mid-season), very resistant, ????
- Yarlington mill, D(very late), ????, ????
- Lindel, C(late mid-season), ????, spur
- Esopus Spitzenberg, ????, ????, spur
- Winesap, ????, very resistant, spur
- Ashmead's Kernel, D(very late), spur

Second - Of these varieties are there any other challenges I should be aware of (eg, anthracnose in Dabinett as mentioned in a previous post)?

Thanks!


Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:52 pm
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Location: Portland, OR
Post Re: cider apple bloom times, scab resistance, fruiting habit
Esopus Spitzenberg has poor resistance to scab.
John s
PDX OR


Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:54 pm
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Post Re: cider apple bloom times, scab resistance, fruiting habit
Golden Russet is pretty disease resistant. Everything I've heard/read about Winesap says it is not scab resistant.


Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:43 pm
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Post Re: cider apple bloom times, scab resistance, fruiting habit
Can I ask why you are concerned about "as scab resistant as possible" for cider varieties? Are you planning to eat fresh or do you have a terrible scab situation at your tree site? Typically, scab is less important for cider production than it would be for fresh eating.


Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:23 pm
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Post Re: cider apple bloom times, scab resistance, fruiting habit
natjwest wrote:
Can I ask why you are concerned about "as scab resistant as possible" for cider varieties? Are you planning to eat fresh or do you have a terrible scab situation at your tree site? Typically, scab is less important for cider production than it would be for fresh eating.


Excellent question. In terms of apple aesthetics, I'm not concerned about 'scabby' apples at all. Nor am I in a 'terrible scab situation'... and I hope to keep it that way. My quest for scab resistant varieties is based on 1) wanting the trees to be as healthy productive as possible and 2) attempting to minimize the number of stressors my trees might encounter (ie, "scab + stressor Y + stressor Z" would likely be harder on a tree than stressors Y & Z alone).

Thanks for asking. Any input, suggestions, recommendations, etc.?


Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:32 pm
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