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Author:  justalittlegardenobsessed [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Scion trade/purchase

Hi fellow home orchardists! As an eternal optimist (none of my grafts have EVER taken) I'm looking for scion wood. I can't make it to your scion exchange, and other attempts I've made to trade scions have not proven successful, so I thought I'd post here. Let me know if that's not appropriate. I don't have anything too exotic, so I'm happy to pay if there are no appealing exchange options. I'm in Canada, but I have not had any problem with sending or receiving scions across the border.

HAVE
Apple scionwood: I have Florina, Jonafree, Karmijn de Sommeville, Margil and Liberty
Fig: I have Desert King.
Cherry: I have nanking cherry seeds.
Blueberries: I have Polaris and Northland
Currant: Pink Champagne
Grape: I have a vine that is either Reliance, Canadice, and Suffolk. Sadly, I don't know which as the label fell off.

WANT
Parafilm (I'm hoping this will contribute to better grafting luck)
Apple: I'm looking for Rubinette, Ashmead's Kernel, Fiesta and Suntan apple scionwood
Hardy Kiwi: I'm looking for males, Issai, and any variety other than Anna and Ken's Red (which I have, and am hoping to graft others onto.)
Fig: I'm interested in anything that would do well in the Pacific Northwest except for Brown Turkey.
Grape: I'm looking for Jupiter, Price, and NY Muscat cuttings

Thanks very much!

Author:  womblesd [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

Here is a yahoo group I belong to for exchanging scion wood. I had great experiences trading last year with members of this group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/scionexchange/

Author:  justalittlegardenobsessed [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

Thanks for the suggestion, womblesd! I'm part of the same group but have gotten no nibbles on my list so am trying to broaden my net. :D

Author:  womblesd [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

I will trade you ashnead kernal for margil. Send me an email confirming this trade, with you address, and I will save it and mail you sticks after I prune.

Dan Wombles
advizr@sbcglobal.net

Author:  orangepippin [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

I'm not sure of the situation in Canada but I think plant breeders rights apply on Fiesta, and possibly Rubinette - might be best to check.

Author:  justalittlegardenobsessed [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

Orangepippin, it looks like the patent on Rubinette expired in 2007, and the patent on Fiesta expired in 2010, according to the Seattle Fruit Tree Society... thanks for suggesting I check. Womblesd, thanks kindly, I will pm you. :)

Author:  orangepippin [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

It may be different in different countries. I've just been told by a grower that Fiesta is still protected in the UK, but it cannot be for much longer!

Author:  orangepippin [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

Just to confirm, I have now heard from the owners that Fiesta is still covered by international "Plant Variety Rights" until July 2014.

Author:  justalittlegardenobsessed [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

Orange Pippen, thanks for the info. I don't understand the intricacies of fruit tree patents, but as I mentioned the info I got was from the Seattle Tree Fruit Society, which says the patent expired 12/24/2010: http://www.seattletreefruitsociety.com/ ... fiesta.pdf

Obviously the breeder would know when the patent actually expires, but if you aren't able to contact the breeder directly, how would you find out this information?

Author:  sohoppy [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

I don't have the scions you're looking for, but Malple Valley Orchards has Ashmead's Kernel scions for $3.00 each. Their website is www.maplevalleyorchards.com and they are shipping now. They sell rootstocks also.

Author:  orangepippin [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

I've asked the PVR holder and it seems the US rights expired either in Dec 2010 or Sept 2012 ... either way it has now expired in the USA (but not the UK / Europe).

So it seems PVR may be different in different countries, and it is probably only 20 years in the USA whereas it is 30 years in Europe.

Author:  justalittlegardenobsessed [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

Businesses don't seem keen to ship across the border, but thanks very much for the tip sohappy. And thanks for the update on the patent situation orangepippen. :) D.

Author:  sohoppy [ Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

Have you had any success finding the scions you want? I know it can be difficult, depending on where you live. I'm in the market for some Queen Cox scions if anyone has this apple. I'd pay for the scions and shipping, of course.

Author:  justalittlegardenobsessed [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scion trade/purchase

Hi sohappy -- I did get some Ashmead's Kernal scions, but the other varieties remain elusive. Hopefully someone can hook you up with some Queen Cox. :)

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