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 White trash or ingenious invention? 
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Post White trash or ingenious invention?
I knew you couldn't resist with a subject like that. Actually, I'm not describing my work , but this article from Mother Earth NEws. Seems like a great way to do it in the PNW:

http://www.motherearthnews.com/homestea ... z3IuFPA817
John S
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Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:19 pm
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Location: Yamhill County, Oregon
Post Re: White trash or ingenious invention?
Good idea… I think.. Not much to look at but not too hard to disguise, I think..

I’ve a book on ‘root cellaring’ but have noticed we in the PNW need more cold than we get. I’ve an innovative uncle who built one underground (done right) as he remembered from the Midwest but ‘out here,’ there wasn’t enough cold to make it viable.

But we’ve relatively cheap hydropower, or so I’m told.. So running an actual refrigerator in a garage or basement is likely our best bet. But good luck finding one that’s not ‘self-defrosting,’ thus constantly sucking the moisture from it’s contents. ...I think that ‘same uncle’ told me to buy a freezer, non or less ‘defrosting,’ then replace it’s thermostat with that of a refrigerator… I haven't ~

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Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:37 am
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I just put most of mine in an out building. Stays cool from about now on to say April. Most fruits do store better at colder than our typical cool season temps. Closer to 32 is better. Also so much rain can flood a hole in the ground. That's why I thought an old fridge might make sense. Critter proof, cool, cheap, flood proof. I think in the article it doesn't plug in. Just a light for really cold-say in the teens F. I might try some container like that some day.
Anyone else tried it? Old timers talked about burying Golden Russets so they didn't shrivel!
John S
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Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:33 pm
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Post Re: White trash or ingenious invention?
I once found a tomato in spring that evidently ripened all winter in a pile of wet-ish leaves. Cool, non-desiccating.


Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:37 pm
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Post Re: White trash or ingenious invention?
Some dudes I used to email with in BC grew large fuzzy kiwis that didn't ripen in the fall, but due to their mild winters (even milder than ours) the plant never died back and they kept ripening until the spring and were good to eat.
Weird, huh?
John S
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Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:08 pm
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After I harvested my red onions this summer I put them in a paper bag on the covered back deck and then forgot about them. While I was in Thailand in November the temperatures dropped down to around 20 degrees.

The onions are still in the bag. I expected them to be soft and shriveled but they are crisp and still better than the ones from the produce store.


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