Re: Already thinking about spring
Regarding the sour (or pie) cherry; my experience dormant grafting cherry trees has been dismal, and I’ve attempted quite a few. They’re best Budded
mid to late summer - and it’s too bad you weren’t able to give that a go back then. You’d have placed several (to get one) buds fairly low on the new rootstock growth. If they’d have shown viability (not died), this spring you could have cut the stock off above one of them and allowed a grafted bud to become the ‘trunk’ of the new tree. You’d have to have procured the cherry bud-stick
variety you wanted, but that’s not too difficult if you have access to any that time of year.
You can also attempt a dormant graft. A ‘whip & tongue’ would be my recommendation, placed as low on the new root stock as possible.
Personally, on a cherry tree that young, I’d replace it… Your time is likely worth more than the cost of a new one, I know mine is.
Regarding the Apple; I applaud you going for a ‘full sized tree,’ with yearly pruning, they’ve the potential to be whatever size you like. Your tree shouldn’t be that “large” at the moment, though more vigorous than a ‘dwarf.’ Whip & Tongue grafts are my favorite. They’re a bit trickier than a more crude ‘Cleft Graft,’ but give a cleaner, smoother connection.
What I’ve done is bought a ‘base tree,’ often times a Yellow Delicious for their excellent pollination, vigor and availability, plant it – and immediately graft 3 or (say) 4 limbs of something I really want, usually several varieties. There is no limit
as to how many varieties you can graft to an apple tree… but be careful – it’s addictive
If you’re not comfortable with a whip & tongue graft, a cleft graft will work fine – especially if the stock at the graft location is twice as ‘thick’ as the scion. Just make your grafts around eight inches out from the ‘trunk,’ further out leaves them vulnerable to damage from storms and pruning. …ideally, you’d ‘bud graft’ these, too… that’s how the nurseries do their ‘cocktail’ or multi-grafted trees. But you’re on the right track.
…as far as scion wood… as an HOS member
, there’s only one place I can recommend – our ‘Scion Exchange’ near Portland, Oregon… Otherwise, this is (another) good time for someone else to step in, as I’ve never had to order ‘mail order’ scions…
Good questions, good luck, and welcome to our Forum